poetryondemand asked: A dude friend demanded I "name one" female superhero who could head her own movie. I gave him a list. He said he hadn't heard of any, so they couldn't be A-listers. I said Captain Marvel, Black Widow, She-Hulk are solo titles. He said they still "couldn't handle" a solo movie. I gave up. (btw he also made several factual errors that, if he'd been a girl, the other dudes would've crucified him for, but they didn't say anything.) What are we supposed to do?
Kill him and eat him in front of the others. It’s the only way they learn.
Reminder that Iron Man wasn’t “A-list” before his first movie.
Erm….How was Iron Man not “A-List”? He has several solo titles and is one of the main protagonists in the Avengers…. Iron Man is pretty much the definition of “A-List”
See the bit where I said “Before his movie”. He wasn’t, he really wasn’t, one of the top names before a) Ellis and Granov’s Extremis arc/reboot and b) his first movie.
Until that point he was moderately successful, within comics, but certainly wasn’t a huge hit, and crucially, very few people outside of comic readers had any idea who he was.
Reminder that Black Widow had a solo film in production before the first Iron Man movie, and the reason it was cancelled was her gender.
One of my best friends has been an Iron Man fan his whole life, and he was STUNNED when the movie was green-lit, because Iron Man wasn’t A-list. We MADE these characters A-list, by loving their movies.
In another world, very close to this one, Black Widow is THE name to beat in comic book movies right now. I want to live there.
Ant-Man is getting his own movie
Daredevil had a movie
Ghost Rider has had 2 movies
Punisher’s had 2 movies (recently, in total he’s had 3)
Blade’s had 3 movies and a TV show
These are all “A-listers”?
I bet you most people had no clue who Blade was before the movies made him a success.
They invented a white dude out of whole cloth in the movie series in Coulson, and now he’s in video games, a live action series, an animated series, and in the comics.
Captain/Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Black Widow, etc all have more of a comics history and name recognition than Coulson who didn’t even exist 6 years ago. People act like who gets a movie is like some sort of sports draft, and they’re being picked by their college/comic accomplishments, rather than these are fictional characters who are popular if there is the will to write them well & promote them.
Can we just bring this back to Kelly Sue’s answer which is downright perfect?